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jethrien ([personal profile] jethrien) wrote2008-10-17 02:25 pm

Going digital

So I think I'm ready to finally be dragged kicking and screaming into the twenty-first century. It's time to give in and get a digital camera.

I know nothing about digital cameras.

So right now, I have a Canon Rebel that I love. I don't use nearly all the features that I feel like I should, but I love that it's both got idiot-buttons so I can hand it off to someone else, but also lets me play all I want with zooming and focal lengths and stuff. Part of the reason I got a good camera in the first place was a series of pictures where the light levels were all wrong or the auto-focus picked the wrong object and what I actually wanted a picture of was blurry. I also really like that I can blow up pictures from film to have something larger to hang on the wall that is still sharp. (Although I don't do this all that often, either.)

What I don't like about the camera - the usual flaws of film. You can't see it until you process it, you have to print every picture, you can't send a million copies to all your friends for free. Also, I love the quality you get from a bulky, "real" camera, but I'm getting tired of trying to lug such a bulky camera around. I feel like if I had a smaller camera, maybe I'd use it more because I'd take it to parties or horseback riding or whatever.

So, things I would like to be able to do:
- have some control over focus beyond simply zooming in or out
- take pictures of a high enough quality that I could have prints made that were at least 8 1/2 x 11in.
What might be nice, but might contradict points A and B:
- having something small enough to actually fit in a purse or deep coat pocket

I don't actually know pretty much anything about digital photography right now, although I'm willing to learn. I don't know who are good companies, or what kind of specs I should look for.

Help me, Intarwebs! (By which I mean, people who read my LJ and like giving advice.)

I love my camera

[identity profile] lithoglyphic.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX01, because it's 28mm (wide-angle), and I can take pictures of things nearby without having to back up inconveniently. Great for taking pictures of friends across a restaurant booth, or zooming in on architectural nooks and crannies.

Just about any camera you get these days will fit in a coat pocket and take 8x10 prints. I haven't messed with manual focus much, so I can't advise there.

Re: I love my camera

[identity profile] lithoglyphic.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and when you GET said camera, sign up for Flickr. It's free if you just want a photoblog, and don't mind limits on uploads and folders.

I'm a pro member for $15 or $25/year, which raises said limits, and I think it's been totally worthwhile, even though I don't consider myself a "real" photographer. It's been fun to get feedback on photos from random browsing people. I've also sold a watercolor through Flickr, and had my photos selected for publication in a travel guide. Which is supercool, considering that I haven't even been trying.

[identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have your own lenses? I know my mom liked hers so well, she just found a basic digital base that she could attach her lenses to. That way you have the bonuses of digital--reviewing pictures, lots more without the bulk, etc.--but you can focus and take pictures the same as you're used to doing.

[identity profile] shnayder.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
If you want another SLR, I've heard really good things about the Nikon D-?? series. (I was going to write D-50/70, but there are updated versions now).

If you want something small, there are tons of options--I like the Sony DSC series. Do be aware the image quality from any small camera is going to be quite noticeably worse than an SLR. In looking around, I just saw this: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/PanasonicG1/ It sounds cool, and comes out in November.

I just broke my camera last weekend, so I'm doing some research as well. I think I may try to find a cheap and tiny point and shoot camera, and wait and see how people like the Panasonic once it's out. I want an SLR, but don't like the size and weight.

[identity profile] jethrien.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Do be aware the image quality from any small camera is going to be quite noticeably worse than an SLR.

Yeah, I know. I just don't have that good a sense of how each actually translates out.

The problem is, I love the idea of being able to take the high quality photos but I don't exercise the option that often. I do feel like I would have more good but not excellent photos with the smaller camera because I could take it places I couldn't take a bulkier one. I could in theory buy a small digital camera and still use my Rebel with film for more ambitious stuff. But I suspect that once I can see what I've just taken, I'm not going to want to go back. Plus, most of my favorite pictures are from vacations, and I just don't really see wanting to lug two cameras off to Europe or the Caribbean or wherever it is that we go.

Basically, if I have the convenient camera, I'll use that instead of the good camera, and then be annoyed when my pictures don't come out as well.

[identity profile] shnayder.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
DSLR photos:
http://picasaweb.google.com/harvardoutingclub/UndisclosedLocationBlueberryMushroomHike#
http://picasaweb.google.com/harvardoutingclub/Moosilauke21007#

Sony DSC-W5:
http://picasaweb.google.com/harvardoutingclub/Canyonlands0307#
http://picasaweb.google.com/shnayder/NOLS2008Selections# (not all from my camera, but all from point-and-shoot digital cameras)

The point and shoots are fine, but SLR is better, especially in terms of depth of field, or rather, lack thereof--the SLR lets you only have a narrow range in focus. P&S usually means everything is in focus.

[identity profile] jethrien.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can see. OK, this is helpful in terms of understanding. I still don't know what I want, but at least now I understand the question better. :)

[identity profile] ecmyers.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I need one too. I want a digital SLR, but they're crazy expensive, even used, and probably too bulky for me to carry around very often. I played around with my friend's Canon A620 and liked the manual controls of it. I might get something like that, but suspect I should still get something smaller, like an Elph.

[identity profile] dushai.livejournal.com 2008-10-19 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.dpreview.com/ (Digital Photography Review) is a great website for reviews of specific models. Their reviews are pretty comprehensive and they post actual photos under different conditions and comment on the strengths and weaknesses. When you're down to choosing between a few models, look them up on DPReview.